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August 29, 2007

New, tougher, laws against illegal aliens

From KTUL, Tulsa...

Tens of thousands of Hispanics have left the Tulsa area. And, a law designed to crack down on illegal immigration hasn't even taken effect yet. But, there's a catch.

East Tulsa is where the majority of Hispanics ended up settling. They came by the thousands and now they're leaving that way, too. And, it's all because of one word -- deportation.

The KTUL piece is mostly pro-illegal and omits a lot of salient facts. WorldNetDaily provides a more rounded view...

The state of Oklahoma recently approved a new law that requires deportation for illegal aliens who are arrested, and limits benefits and jobs to those individuals....

Officials say many of those departing apparently are heading either to Kansas or Arkansas. But that may not be for long, since Arkansas is about to adopt a law similar to Oklahoma's, and Kansas is considering a similar move.

Tulsa County Sheriff Stanley Glanz told KTUL that the impact of the illegal alien population is evident all over, especially in the jail.

"We see the effects of gangs, we see the effects of illegal immigrants, we see the effects of drugs, we see the effects of methamphetamines," he said....

The Republican who wrote HB 1804, Randy Terrill of Moore, said the plan doesn't discriminate, harass or single out anyone, unless they are breaking the law.

"This isn't about whether you are for or against immigration, or for or against immigrants. It doesn't matter what your skin color is or if you speak with an accent. What matters is if you are in the country legally or illegally. The only people threatened by House Bill 1804 are those who choose to break the law," he said.

WND reports a new Arizona law is having the same effect there.

But it's comments like the one on the billboard at I-44 and 21st street in Tulsa which reads...

"Is it OK for Oklahoma to have a law that promotes hate among people?"

...that make matters worse. The billboard was paid for by a group which calls itself "United Front Task Force". The new Oklahoma law does not promote hate, but mind-numbed Liberals always see laws they disagree with in terms of "hate" which has become a meaningless mantra with them.

The new law makes it illegal to transport or hide someone you know is an illegal alien. It also requires a residency check on anyone charged with a felony, and the assumption that if they are illegal, then they are a flight risk, for purposes of setting bail or bond. It requires employers to verify residency of all employees. How does that promote hate?

This kind of outright lying by Liberals, is why the law was able to be passed. Opponents of stricter immigration laws are too willing to demonize any who disagree with them, while pretending illegals are all harmless, "law-abiding" people who benefit society. No one believes them, so they've lost whatever power they thought they had to sway public opinion. The Federal government has failed to adequately address the problem, so the states are.

Posted by Danny Carlton at August 29, 2007 8:29 AM

Comments

Why is anyone with views that depart from your own a "Liberal"?

Posted by: Josh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:11 AM

How many Conservatives call enforcing the law "encouraging hate"?

How many Liberals opposed amnesty for illegal aliens?

If it walks like a duck...

Posted by: Danny Carlton at August 29, 2007 6:20 PM

I don't know how many? Where can I find a reference to this research? Who assigned them to each category? You answered a question with a question, so I feel compelled to do the same. It was a question in a more generalist sense however as I have seen such behavior in a number of post. If it walks like a duck it could just be something that walks like a duck. Forming an opinion of something or someone without the full range of facts is problematic at best.

Posted by: Josh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 9:56 PM

Nice blog. I wrote a piece about this on my blog as well. Give it a read if you get time. The ties to the Catholic church are interesting.

Posted by: Patrick at August 31, 2007 2:42 PM

Oklahoma might have gone more fur than they should go!

Oklahoma's Governor Brad Henry has signed a sweeping immigration Reform bill: House Bill 1804, that its sponsor believes will go a long way in dealing with the illegal alien problem in the state. They say "We have as much right - in fact, I would argue, a responsibility - to protect our tax payers against that sort of egregious waste, fraud and abuse as the federal government should have a responsibility to protect that international border, but doesn't do that."

And now we will see how Oklahoma will do compared with the neighboring states who will still be counting on cheap immigrant labor to help them grow. I do not know much about how the subprime mortgage sector has been doing in Oklahoma but I guess that now some homeowners will not be happy seeing their house prices further eroded just because their neighbors have to leave town for Kansas since there they've have not gone about as fur as they c'n go!

The fact is that anything that builds on the premise of considering an alien anyone who is just an earthling from the other side of the border; and where the supporters include arguments such as “If all 535 candidates for Congress were Muslims, and became U.S. senators and House members-- they would dismantle our Constitution in a heartbeat and install Sharia Law. How stupid are we as a nation? How naïve? How bankrupt in our apathy toward Islam and its prime directive?” does not seem to be on too solid ground so as to provide well thought out public policies.

For instance somewhere in the transcripts sent by those in favor of the reform it says that “America's criminal justice system is bulging with these citizens of other countries. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, 30 percent of federal prisoners are not U.S. citizens. At a cost of $63 a day, taxpayers spend more than $3 million every day to house non-U.S. citizen dollars in our federal prisons. Most are thought to be illegal aliens.”

Well, placing these inmates (at much lower costs) in the neighboring countries in new prisons that you helped to build and that are operated by the same private companies that operate so many of the prisons in the US seems to be a better policy than just throwing criminals over the border to countries much less capable of handling them, and then expecting the problem not to return, worsened.

Also designing large and effective temporary worker programs seems a way of building solutions to the problem of keeping the demand and supply and costs of migration policy enforcement under control. For instance if you would require a private insurance company to guarantee that those workers who enter the US under an official temporary worker visa program go back in a timely way, and if not they will have to pay one or two hundred thousand dollars to the US or to Oklahoma, that would allow the market to work for you and not against you… and that might be a better way of getting as fur as you should be able to get!

Posted by: Per Kurowski [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 12:52 PM

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